Warranty Action Notice #01-2007

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=400>January 11, 2007

</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=200> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=600>Warranty Action Notice #01-2007

</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=1> </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=600>Please review this Bulletin with:
Dealer Principal _______
Service Manager _______
Parts Manager _______
Warranty Admin. _______
Service Advisors _______
Shop Foreman _______
Parts Counter people _______
Technicians _______


</TD><TD width=1></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=600></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=1> </TD></TR><TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=600>Article #01-A-2007
6.0L/4.5L Cold Driveability Recalibration vs Injector Replacement -
2004-2006 E-Series,
2003-2005 Excursion,
2003-2007 F-Super Duty,
2004-2007 F-650/750,
2006-2007 Low Cab Forward
</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width=1> </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=600>Special Note : Chargebacks for these repairs may exceed $1500.
A review of warranty claims indicates 40% of cold engine driveability symptom repairs on 6.0L/4.5L diesel vehicles had fuel injectors replaced before performing the new recalibration TSB.

TSB 06-22-3 applies to E-Series, Excursion and F-Super Duty
TSB 06-25-7 applies to F-650/750 and Low Cab ForwardThese TSBs provide a recalibration for cold injector spool valve sticking. Testing has shown that recalibration eliminates the need to replace injectors 90% of the time.

The Warranty & Policy Manual, Section 1 states, "It is Service Management's responsibility to ensure that the latest service publications and/or repair procedures available from the Company are followed for all Company paid repairs."
TSB 06-22-3 or TSB 06-25-7 must be used if the symptoms apply before attempting to perform further diagnosis and repairs.Category: Powertrain – Diesel Engine
Do: Perform TSB 06-22-3 or TSB 06-25-7 recalibration prior to replacing fuel injectors for cold driveability symptoms.
Don't: Replace fuel injectors for cold driveability symptoms before performing TSB 06-22-3 or TSB 06-25-7.

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Do the calibration update, BEFORE just putting injectors in it.

[UNBROKEN]

Thoughts on this ?

[PSDPlayer]

You can replace injectors over and over again. Or you can put the flash in it and they will last.

[Betaracer]

Does this flash ONLY change the injection spool or does it have all the previous flashes included?

[mikeym]

man, and i wanted to try to get my injectors swapped before i send em in as cores, lol

[_CH_]

You can replace injectors over and over again. Or you can put the flash in it and they will last.

i thought you were sayin the key in injectors lasting was to NOT run rotella, but rather that premium blue...whatever it is?

[PSDPlayer]

i thought you were sayin the key in injectors lasting was to NOT run rotella, but rather that premium blue...whatever it is?

Obviously running a better oil will help out. But for some that don't want the added expense or just refuse to run something other than the rotella, then they better start looking at other alternatives. Will the flash all out fix the problem? No. Some trucks that don't get regular oil changes, or fuel filter changes will still need injectors. But how could it ever be the customers fault and not the "POS" truck. :rolleyes:

What they are trying to do is reduce having customers come back over and over.

[fordguy]

i have had the reflash and my truck still need injectors.

[PSDPlayer]

i have had the reflash and my truck still need injectors.

Have you pinpointed the dead injector on cold start? Could you possibly have a bad icp?

[_CH_]

What they are trying to do is reduce having customers come back over and over.

youve never seen my OASIS have you? :eek: :eek: (no injectors tho)

[6L strokin]

ive go the flash...still have some cold start problems...not so much the romping, but blows a lot of blue smoke idling untill it warms up a bit! gotta new hpop not too long ago, no injectors though.

[PSDPlayer]

How cold is it outside? And does it do it with the banks module unhooked? Find out what the ICP sensor voltage is at idle.

[6L strokin]

ummm, honestly havent tried unhooking the banks overnight to see if that stops it. i can, it doesnt take all that long to unhook just gotta pull the battery and change back to the factory harness, etc., but the pain in the ass is that you gotta go back through all the power levels to make the damn thing learn how to shift again! time and fuel consuming!

how do you check the ICP voltage?

it has done it with it in the 30s-40s outside

[PSDPlayer]

If its 30-40 degrees outside. Plug the truck in.

[powerboatr]

doug \
this is cool
moms 04 has the latest reflash ko inj rin. mine does not and we do reguler oil changes and have had zero issues
while mom has had every problem imaginable to man.... she dont change oil lile i do :D :D :D

thanks man, my ride ges in next week for an OIL leak that just started............dammmmmmm

doug can i copy this to my other hang out site

[mikeym]

my truck blows white smoke until it warms up also, and its 40-50s here in the morning. it was like 15 outside 1 morning and youd a thought i had a fog machine in my tail pipe...

[6L strokin]

same here man! i usually do plug it in when it gets very cold. but i travel a lot too and sometimes cant plug er in. it was really cold one night and i got lucky and had a 1st floor room and parked right in front of it and ran an extension cord out of the room to the truck....saw some maids the next morning looking at it like wtf..? haha! thing that pisses me off the most it think is my dad has a 02 7.3 ex. and it can sit for 2 days be 35 degrees out and start right up no hard idle, little if any smoke....almost makes me wish i had a 7.3, but then i wouldnt have the speed or sound of a 6.0...

is it at all possible that the "spool shaking" from the flash is mainly to get rid of the rough idle but causes some of the smoke? cuz doesnt that shake out the oil and blue smoke is oil right..?

[PSDPlayer]

"Spool Shaking"? Its there to help promote a smooth bore for the spool valve to move in for the next start.

[6L strokin]

but doesnt it shake out the oil or something? i was thinking thats what i read a while back. and if that is...when its cold is it possible that its burning the oil? i was just trying to think of what could be causing the smoke? sucks that my pickup smokes more than our semi under startup...

[PSDPlayer]

The smoke on cold starts from a diesel is from it not being hot enough to burn. It has to create the heat to burn the fuel through compression.

[6L strokin]

O, see thats why i ask questions...so the people that know can answer em! one more though, if its unburnt fuel (this is prolly stupid) why is unburnt fuel running down the road black and at idle when cold its blue?

[PSDPlayer]

One is like charcoal. And one is fuel that hasn't started to burn.

[6L strokin]

gotcha! smart man doug! so is this "bad" or is it ok, just embarrasing?

[PSDPlayer]

<TABLE cellPadding=4 width=750><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width="10%">Question:</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width="90%">How much smoke is considered normal for a diesel?</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width="10%">Answer:</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width="90%">Smoke from the exhaust on start up in cool to cold temperatures on the Power Stroke engines is normal. Acceptable levels could be described as a puff of smoke followed by very light smoke for the first mile or so. Some factors which will affect the smoke are fuel quality, fuel range (1D, 2D and winterized 2D), temperature, oil quality, API rating and oil viscosity.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

That is Ford's opinion.

[PSDPlayer]

http://www.gogodiesel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11768 Here is the link to the TSB detailing the flash.

[blood]

id just like to thank you for posting this.i told a friend about this.
his truck would'nt even move for about 10 min, when cold and sounded like a old tractor, he had it done and now it starts up smooth and can take off.

ps. can this be added to the tunes? he wants a sct but can not be without the spooling? i may want to add it myself just to keep my injectors healthy.

[PSDPlayer]

The flash affects the FICM which is not controlled by the sct. The spool valve cycling has been added to everything Ford creates going forward.